Comments on: Defining Terms: Landmarkism http://theplowman.org/2007/03/01/defining-terms-landmarkism/ A podcast featuring the pulpit ministry of Trinity Baptist Church, Tulsa, Oklahoma Sun, 20 May 2012 00:43:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Wayne http://theplowman.org/2007/03/01/defining-terms-landmarkism/comment-page-1/#comment-191 Wayne Tue, 03 Apr 2007 21:11:27 +0000 http://theplowman.org/2007/03/01/defining-terms-landmarkism/#comment-191 Ben, Thanks for your comment. I don't know how I missed your comment on this post for so long. Well, yes I do: I have been working on several other projects that have taken a good deal of my time away from this blog. I am not a prolific blogger, but I have been remiss in not keeping up here. Your quotations are quite interesting. I am not thorough on the Anabaptists, I know. I do realize there was a wide variety of doctrinal positions, in various areas among the Anabaptists. The purpose of the post was to point out Southwestern's fixation on the Anapaptists, and at the same time their apparent aversion to the Magisterial Reformers. Good work on your part, though. You must be a bit of a follower/scholar of Anabaptist history. Best regards, Wayne Hatcher Ben,
Thanks for your comment. I don’t know how I missed your comment on this post for so long. Well, yes I do: I have been working on several other projects that have taken a good deal of my time away from this blog. I am not a prolific blogger, but I have been remiss in not keeping up here.

Your quotations are quite interesting. I am not thorough on the Anabaptists, I know. I do realize there was a wide variety of doctrinal positions, in various areas among the Anabaptists. The purpose of the post was to point out Southwestern’s fixation on the Anapaptists, and at the same time their apparent aversion to the Magisterial Reformers.

Good work on your part, though. You must be a bit of a follower/scholar of Anabaptist history.

Best regards,
Wayne Hatcher

]]> By: Ben Stratton http://theplowman.org/2007/03/01/defining-terms-landmarkism/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Ben Stratton Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:33:10 +0000 http://theplowman.org/2007/03/01/defining-terms-landmarkism/#comment-7 Did The Anabaptists Immerse? (The common thought of most Baptist historians today is that the Anabaptists practiced sprinkling or pouring for baptism. While it is admitted that their was a wide variety of beliefs among the Anabaptists and that some of them did practice affusion, a great many of them did practice immersion. Below are a few quotes I think you will find most interesting. – Ben Stratton) The Swiss Anabaptists "Wolfgang Ulmann, on the journey to Schaffhausen, met Conrad Grebel who instructed him so highly in the knowledge of Anabaptism that he would not sprinkle out of a dish, but was drawn under and covered over with the waters of the Rhine." Kessler’s History, pg. 266. 1902. The Germany Anabaptists "The Anabaptists leaders, Hubmaier, Denck, Hatzer, Hut, likewise appeared in Augsubrg, and gathered a congregation of eleven hundred members. They had a general synod in 1527. They baptized by immersion." Phillip Schaff, History of the Christian Church. VI. 578 (Schaff, one the most respected Protestant historians, readily admits many of the Germany Anabaptists immersed.- Ben) The Dutch Anabaptists "The word of the Lord commands us that we, with sincere hearts, desire to die to sin, to bury our sins with Christ, and with him to arise to a new life, even as baptism is portrayed." Menno Simon, Christian Baptism, pg. 17 "In the third place, we are informed by the historians, ancient and modern, also by the decrees, that baptism was changed both as to its mode and time of administering. In the beginning of the holy church, persons were dipped in common water, on their first profession, up their own faith, according to the Scriptures. Menno Simon, Christian Baptism, pg. 16 The Polish Anabaptists "Baptism is "the immersion in water and the emmersion of a person who believes the Gospel and repents" Racovian Catechism, 1574, LXXI (This catechism describing the beliefs of the Polish Anabaptists was first issued in 1574 - Ben) The English Anabaptists "The water of baptism taketh not away our sin for then it were a precious water. . . We be plunged under the water. . . And this we promised to do when we be baptize and we signify even the same, when we be plunged under the water." Sum of Scripture, pg. 4401. (This book was first published in Dutch, but was translated into English in 1529 and was the hand-book for the English Anabpaitsts in the mid 1500’s. - Ben) Did The Anabaptists Immerse?

(The common thought of most Baptist historians today is that the Anabaptists practiced sprinkling or pouring for baptism. While it is admitted that their was a wide variety of beliefs among the Anabaptists and that some of them did practice affusion, a great many of them did practice immersion. Below are a few quotes I think you will find most interesting. – Ben Stratton)

The Swiss Anabaptists

“Wolfgang Ulmann, on the journey to Schaffhausen, met Conrad Grebel who instructed him so highly in the knowledge of Anabaptism that he would not sprinkle out of a dish, but was drawn under and covered over with the waters of the Rhine.” Kessler’s History, pg. 266. 1902.

The Germany Anabaptists

“The Anabaptists leaders, Hubmaier, Denck, Hatzer, Hut, likewise appeared in Augsubrg, and gathered a congregation of eleven hundred members. They had a general synod in 1527. They baptized by immersion.” Phillip Schaff, History of the Christian Church. VI. 578 (Schaff, one the most respected Protestant historians, readily admits many of the Germany Anabaptists immersed.- Ben)

The Dutch Anabaptists

“The word of the Lord commands us that we, with sincere hearts, desire to die to sin, to bury our sins with Christ, and with him to arise to a new life, even as baptism is portrayed.” Menno Simon, Christian Baptism, pg. 17

“In the third place, we are informed by the historians, ancient and modern, also by the decrees, that baptism was changed both as to its mode and time of administering. In the beginning of the holy church, persons were dipped in common water, on their first profession, up their own faith, according to the Scriptures. Menno Simon, Christian Baptism, pg. 16

The Polish Anabaptists

“Baptism is “the immersion in water and the emmersion of a person who believes the Gospel and repents” Racovian Catechism, 1574, LXXI (This catechism describing the beliefs of the Polish Anabaptists was first issued in 1574 - Ben)

The English Anabaptists

“The water of baptism taketh not away our sin for then it were a precious water. . . We be plunged under the water. . . And this we promised to do when we be baptize and we signify even the same, when we be plunged under the water.” Sum of Scripture, pg. 4401. (This book was first published in Dutch, but was translated into English in 1529 and was the hand-book for the English Anabpaitsts in the mid 1500’s. - Ben)

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