thx

Anyway on most occasions the Lord also gives me a tune for my words, but because of my tiredness etc I felt He was helping me out today by letting me dig into my ‘bank vault’ of precious hymns learned from childhood, for a tune to fit the words. As soon as I asked the Lord for such a tune, a number immediately came to mind. Then came “May the Mind of Christ my Saviour” and I felt I’d found the tune I should use, but then had to check to see if it was Public Domain or not.

It was lovely reading your comment on the author and composer and I wondered if you would let me use that as a footnote at the end of my own hymn please? At this stage it is only partly finished, and I may even include one of the verses from the original to tie in with the theme on my heart. If you are interested I can email you the finished words, or more if you’d like that.

By the way my website, is a little part-time business I have along with nursing and song-writing. We Aussies are very blessed with ancient bush-tucker and this is the baseis of Kakadu Juice - a new and highly nutritious, God-given blend of fruits mixed with some other exotics, and at only 30ml (1oz) daily is very easily incorporated into the breakfast routine. Testimonials coming from happy users are beginning to be posted to the webpage, but there are many, many more. Because its still a young company, it’s only marketed in Oz and New Zealand so far, but watch out; it won’t be too long before it will be on its way to USA!!! (When the time is right).

I can see I’m going to have to visit your page a lot more, since there is so much interesting reading. Must go now though,

Cheers and blessings, Jo

Love,
“Mrs. Farmer Brown”

The President appoints the nominating committee. It’s the only real power the President has. To appoint the people who will select the trustees of the institution you serve (yes, they have to be voted on; but we vote on the people the committee presents) is a conflict of interest. Mohler could recuse himself from any ExCom meeting that deals with issues related to Southern; but he can’t recuse himself from appointing the nominating committee.

I suppose the argument is that because Mohler is a good guy (and I believe he is) that the potential for harm is small. I would agree. But the potential exists and that’s enough for me to want to avoid any entity leader from serving as President.

I think you have given this subject a very good treatment!

Sorry I haven’t been by for a while.

Sorry we couldn’t have been at the recent SBTC convention to address the new bylaw change!

Love in Christ,

Jeff

I admire the approach your pastor has taken and am glad to have him as a friend.

Not all individual BCM entities are forbidden from soliciting help beyond the Associational budget. Norman and Stillwater both have freedom to do so.

It would only make sense, given Tulsa’s metro culture and our particular funding issues, that the state would give them the freedom to do so here as well. One can only wonder why this has not happened already…

I’m sorry I haven’t kept in touch better lately. I’ve been getting set up here at Grace Community Bible Church in Bonham, Texas (a Reformed Baptist church). You can read more about us at http://www.gcbcbonham.org

My new e-mail address is jeff.richard.young@verizon.net

Thanks for the support you have offered me during my sojourn.

Love in Christ,

Jeff

Thanks for dropping by.

There is a connection here at Trinity with Thom Smith. Here is where he first met Kathy. Her father was pastor here back in the 70’s. Our current pastor, Rod Harris, grew up here and was heavily influenced by Thom’s father-in-law, Paul Cook. Pastor Rod stays loosely in touch with Thom. Right now I believe he is somewhere in Missouri, and I am sad to say, I believe has become a Presbyterian.

Again, it was good to hear from you. I hope you find this site useful. Download a message and listen to our pastor. He’s almost as good as Thom Smith; on a good day, better.

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Your quotations are quite interesting. I am not thorough on the Anabaptists, I know. I do realize there was a wide variety of doctrinal positions, in various areas among the Anabaptists. The purpose of the post was to point out Southwestern’s fixation on the Anapaptists, and at the same time their apparent aversion to the Magisterial Reformers.

Good work on your part, though. You must be a bit of a follower/scholar of Anabaptist history.

Best regards,
Wayne Hatcher

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(The common thought of most Baptist historians today is that the Anabaptists practiced sprinkling or pouring for baptism. While it is admitted that their was a wide variety of beliefs among the Anabaptists and that some of them did practice affusion, a great many of them did practice immersion. Below are a few quotes I think you will find most interesting. – Ben Stratton)

The Swiss Anabaptists

“Wolfgang Ulmann, on the journey to Schaffhausen, met Conrad Grebel who instructed him so highly in the knowledge of Anabaptism that he would not sprinkle out of a dish, but was drawn under and covered over with the waters of the Rhine.” Kessler’s History, pg. 266. 1902.

The Germany Anabaptists

“The Anabaptists leaders, Hubmaier, Denck, Hatzer, Hut, likewise appeared in Augsubrg, and gathered a congregation of eleven hundred members. They had a general synod in 1527. They baptized by immersion.” Phillip Schaff, History of the Christian Church. VI. 578 (Schaff, one the most respected Protestant historians, readily admits many of the Germany Anabaptists immersed.- Ben)

The Dutch Anabaptists

“The word of the Lord commands us that we, with sincere hearts, desire to die to sin, to bury our sins with Christ, and with him to arise to a new life, even as baptism is portrayed.” Menno Simon, Christian Baptism, pg. 17

“In the third place, we are informed by the historians, ancient and modern, also by the decrees, that baptism was changed both as to its mode and time of administering. In the beginning of the holy church, persons were dipped in common water, on their first profession, up their own faith, according to the Scriptures. Menno Simon, Christian Baptism, pg. 16

The Polish Anabaptists

“Baptism is “the immersion in water and the emmersion of a person who believes the Gospel and repents” Racovian Catechism, 1574, LXXI (This catechism describing the beliefs of the Polish Anabaptists was first issued in 1574 - Ben)

The English Anabaptists

“The water of baptism taketh not away our sin for then it were a precious water. . . We be plunged under the water. . . And this we promised to do when we be baptize and we signify even the same, when we be plunged under the water.” Sum of Scripture, pg. 4401. (This book was first published in Dutch, but was translated into English in 1529 and was the hand-book for the English Anabpaitsts in the mid 1500’s. - Ben)

I’m not sure what you mean by the recent proposals for “theological triage”. There have been many proposals since Dr. Mohler first introduced the phrase last July. If I read you correctly, this is a theological issue that needs to be addressed of the long view. The immediate issue needing attention, however, is over the encroachment upon the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 by the IMB policies on baptism and private prayer language. Isn’t a working “triage” in place in the Baptist Faith and Message 2000? Although not clearly differentiated, both primary and secondary doctrines are laid out within its pages, and should serve us in guiding Southern Baptists in faith and practice, including IMB appointment of missionaries. I find it odd that its predecessor served us well for nearly forty years, and yet after less than a decade this current Faith and Message needs augmentation, at least as concerns IMB appointment of missionaries. The only serious proposal that I am aware of by the dissenters is the proposal to let the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 stand alone as a guide for Southern Baptists, and the IMB, or if it is found lacking, have it amended at the next convention to better reflect the beliefs of all Southern Baptists.

I look forward to your further comments on this issue, as I feel you have much to contribute. You don’t seem to be an unreasonable man, just a bit hard to tie down.

In Christ,
Wayne Hatcher

Thank you for this thoughtful post. Honestly, you apparently missed the point I made about theological discrimination, which forms the basis of your critique. This is probably my fault, as I did not want to make a big deal about it. However, this is a theological issue that needs clarification.

So let me blunt. The proposals recently put forward for “theological triage” lack coherency and applicability. The idea is fine in principle, but nobody has yet to offer any system worthy of agreement by all Southern Baptists.

In Christ,
Malcolm

Beautiful photos! How was your Christmas? Happy New Year!

Love in Christ,

Jeff

In Him,
Wayne

What a great picture! It was good meeting you last night. I hope to get to spend a little more time with you the next time we are in the room together.

I am sure Bowden did a great job, as well.

Blessings,

Art

My own abstinence statement is virtually identical to Brother Rod’s.

Thanks for you and Mrs. Wayne’s teamwork in slugging it out over at SBTC blog. It was nice of Dr. R to let me get in the last word.

Thank you very much for the flower bulbs. That was a very kind gesture, and I appreciate it. To be honest, when I saw the box was from you, I just knew it was going to be a bottle of wine of some sort, and I was wondering what in the world I would do with it. Imagine my relief when I opened it!

Adjusting for the fact that I am 250 miles south of you, and that it is about 5-7 degrees warmer here (107 here today, instead of just 100 there), when should I plant them?

Love in Christ,

Jeff

I. Characteristics of someone with the gift of prophecy:

A strong need to express himself verbally.
A strong ability to discern the character and motives of other people.
Wholehearted involvement in whatever he is doing.
Very open to correction.
Extremely loyal.
Willingness to suffer for what is right.
Persuasive in defining truth.
II. Misunderstandings about someone with the gift of prophecy:

His sense of right and wrong is often judged as intolerant.
His strong desire to proclaim truth is often interpreted as disinterest in listening to other people.
Frankness is viewed as harshness or impatience.
Interest in groups may be misinterpreted as a disinterest in individuals.
II. Misunderstandings Cont.:

Efforts to gain results may be seen as using gimmicks.
Interest in decision may appear to be neglecting spiritual growth.
Public boldness and strict standards may hinder intimate personal relationships.
III. The Gift of Prophecy: Spirit vs. Flesh

Spirit
Flesh

1. Truthfulness
Deception

2. Obedience
Willfulness

3. Sincerity
Hypocrisy

4. Morality
Impurity

5. Boldness
Fearfulness

6. Forgiveness
Rejection

7. Persuasive
Conentious

YOU ARE SO RIGTH ON!!! In my humble opinion.

My Brothers and Sisters over the years have told me that I have the Gift of Prophecy. I never paid that much attention to that except, that what I have thought or said, always came TRUE. When Dr. Charles Stanley (Past President SBC) Preached a series on the (Ministering Through Spiritual Gifts), We recorded the Series. When viewing, Dr. Stanley Preached on the Gift of Prophecy, my wife and Family said, thats you (Right On). In Touch had a test that one could take, so I took the Test and it said I (by100 Percent) had the Gift of Prophecy. We purchased the CD series for Our Home Bible Studies and it is a Great Tool.

That Said: I got involved in Blogging because of hearing about something happening within the IMB of the SBC. My family and I have been involved in the Missions Field for many years, and I know the LOVE that one has, who is in or about Missions, for the LOST. When I looked at all the Bloggers I saw Many Hearts and some without Hearts.(GOD KNOWS). If one was to follow my comments or posting, one would see my opinion, I have never (even though I try) been a perfect CHRISTIAN. I read and comprehend, when reading articles and seeing Pictures of the authors I draw opinions. Thus this is why I say YOU ARE SO RIGTH ON!!! In my humble opinion.

A Brother in CHRIST